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Nov 25, 2007

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I've been running since junior high. Ran middle distance in college with a PB of 1:52 for the 800 meters, then continued running with varying degrees of seriousness throughout my 20's and 30's. Moved up in distance and even ran three marathons (2:43 PB). Now just trying to stay in shape and find balance in life in my 40's.

 

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Work out 30 minutes a day, six days a week

 

 

 

 

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Stay healthy and consistent.

 

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Married with 3 children. Work as a school counselor.

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Feeling off today. Sleep and nutrition have sucked the last week. Slogged around in the snow and called it a day after 4 miles. I have 2 weeks off from work now so all will be good soon.

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From Phoenix on Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 22:33:47

ASTYM website:

http://www.performancedynamics.com/

My opinion is as thus:

Normal, healthy collagen fibers within a tendon should align with each other in parallel (think spaghetti in a pack). When a tendon is severely damaged, the body starts laying down new collagen very quickly, and as a consequence, it does not align normally (think spaghetti in a pot). This scar or misaligned collagen is weak and inflexible and very suseptable to irration and pain.

The immune system plays a *very* important role in soft tissue healing because it phagocytizes or chews up damaged tissue. Immune cells also secrete signaling molecules that stimulate tissue growth. ***With achilles tendonosis, paradoxically, after the injury progresses from the acute to the chronic stage, there is a complete dearth of immune cell involvement so the tendon gets stuck in a chronic degenerative state.***

In general, I think ASTYM re-introduces good inflammation to help the body finish healing cycles and clear out old scar tissue. Its a lot more potent than massage because the plastic instruments produce higher local pressure to physically traumatize the tendon.

The PT I worked with initially thinks the direction of force application is important and that a shearing force is created that damages collagen/scar that is not aligned with the health portion of the tendon. (This was in response to my asking why I couldn't just put on a pair of track spikes and run some hard sprints to traumatize the tendon and thereby stimulate healing). In general I agree with this. At the molecular level, I do know that there are proteases (enzymes that degrade proteins) that specifically target misaligned collagen. I suspect that ASTYM traumatizes the tendon just enough to invoke an immune reponse and activate specific proteases, etc, without *damaging* the tendon, helping it escape from its maladaptive state of quiessence.

My PT told my that for the ASTYM to work, I had to run on it because the forces the tendon is exposed during is regenerative would shape its remodeling. This is consistent with my knowledge base. I also had to stretch multiple times a day to keep the new collagen from being laid down short and tight. I suspect that the running was more important than the stretching, but I could be wrong.

After the first 2-3 treatments I wasn't so sure it was going to work. It took 4-5 treatments (2x/week) and then I could tell for sure that my tendon was getting better. After going through a few treatments, I've learned how to do on myself and got some ASTYM-like instruments off ebay and use them when I can't get over something. For me, its been a magic bullet.

From johnr on Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 17:51:50

Thanks for the info. I might look into some options for this type of PT in Boise. What does the instrument look like that you purchased to do it yourself?

John

From Phoenix on Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 19:52:44

John,

I got mine here:

http://guashatools.com/

I would think Boise has a few PTs that do ASTYM. I'd call any local sports medicine clinics and ask. Also, it would probably be good to go see a sports medicine doctor to get some imaging done (preferably a non-surgeon to start out with because you don't want a one-trick-poney with a trigger finger for the knife).

Sometimes with prolonged tendonitis/tendonosis, calcium deposits form, almost like little chunks of bone. I think those usually need to be surgically removed, ie Liu Xiang. I got mine imaged via ultrasound which ruled out spurs but did show a very small area of degeneration. My sports med doc was the one who told me about ASTYM and referred me to the PT.

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